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How can I transport a C1?
Headstocks (http://www.headstockstransport.co.uk) will transport a C1 within the UK for a modest sum (http://www.headstockstransport.co.uk/pricing.htm)
S.O.S. Motorcycle Transport - £82.50 (£70+ VAT) This is their standard cost to transport a bike anywhere on mainland UK south of the A82. Speak to Rob on 0208-807-9949 or 9003 or email@example.com.
Members have had success moving a C1 in high-top, long wheelbase transits, box trailers and horse trailers. Of the three, I have attempted the latter two and can recommend the horse trailer as safe way of transporting a C1 - the bike is held upright by the partition of the trailer.
There's some more information in these threads:
A C1 will fit in a HiTop Ford Transit or similar, which can be hired for about £40 a day. Secure it by straps around the frame, e.g. the shoulder bars. Also, speaking from experience, DO NOT rely on the brakes and stand to prevent it moving forwards or backwards, but strap it to prevent this aswell.
I collected all 3 C1s in my high-top Transit, the secret is to use 4 X nylon ratchet-straps, 1 on each handlebar, to l & r side front of van, & 1 from each shoulder-bar to L & R rear of van. Put bike on stand first, I can drive like a loon (white van man ) & it don't budge.
I colected my C1 in a VW LT35 Hi top. Fitted perfectly and strapping points were provided. Safe as houses with strapping in four directions. However strongly advise that the bike is taken off its stand (as long as its held securely by the straps). Mine came off the stand during the journey, and whilst the strapping still kept it nicely upright, it broke the overload mechanism.
Loading was by running C1 up a scaffold board. Getting it in was a lot easier than getting it out, for which I think you really need three burly people. Depends on how much you worry about dropping the bike (as I had just bought it, and previous owner had kept it in spanking condition, I was very worried).
It was all a bit of mistake really. I paid £66 for the van hire, £70 in fuel (Lancashire) and £85 for a parking ticket. I see from other forum postings that I could get a courier to do the job for me for £175 and I wouldn't have had to take a day off work. Still love the bike.
Sorry to disagree, but just today i've collected a 3rd C1 in a transit, with the stand down, it's VITAL that it's tied off in 4 opposite directions very tight. It's just been lugged around the M25, then up the M1 at 80-90 mph, did'nt move a mm. The only way the stand can break, is if it has moved. Mine did'nt so it did'nt break!!
I disagree, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, put the center stand up when transporting a bike on a flat platform. The center stand is designed to do one thing, and that is to provide a stable base on a non-moving surface. I have personally transported many bikes all over the country and, yes, a four-point restraint system is best for lateral movement, but the shocks and tires are designed to handle up-and-down movement, so let them do it. Even the smoothest road surface will be a bumpy minefield for any bike being transported. Ruts and bumps will make the bike become airborne momentarily, putting tremendous strain on the center stand on impact, especially one and fradgle as the C1 stand. I also uncrate and assemble many bikes in factory containers, and they all come packaged with the center stands up. These are moved by forklifts and stacked in cargo containers and rocked over all kinds of transportation surfaces. So let the shocks and tires do what they were designed to do, handle up and down forces.
Looks like we agree to dis-agree then!!
Well there you have it, people with far more experience that I at transporting C1s recommend centre stand down.
I think I will still transport mine with stand up, apart from tightening the straps after it came off its stand, it was very secure. Suspension shouldn't provide a problem as they are transported on bike trailers with the stand up (well at least mine was on the CBT). You do have to rely on the grip of the tyres a little bit to prevent side ways movement which may be a bit of a risk (on a bike trailer the wheel sits nicely within a channel).
Perhaps if you are strapping down with stand down, you strap back last. So it pulls the bike back onto the stand rather than forward (as I may have done) which could knock the bike off the stand. But I await comments on this last recommendation with baited breath.
I picked my C1 up with a bike trailer.
I would have been impossible to use the stand as the channel that the tyres sit in was only 6 or 7 inches wide and either side of the channel was a view of the road! Certainly not wide enough to offer any lateral support.
I was able to lash each tyre down to the trailer to prevent forward and rearward movement.
Lateral stability was achieved by lashing the shoulder hoops to the outboard lashing points on each side of the trailer.
I drove back and around the M25 at a mere 45 -50 MPH as I was worried something would come loose or snap, but everything was fine ! :-)
None of the replies to this simple question address the most obvious problem... breakdown recovery. It is a C1 remember?
The last time, the AA took my C1 on a spectacle lift (designed for the front wheels of a towed vehicle to sit in and be raised off the road), which worked quite well with the bike sideways on it. Their webbing tie-down went over the plastic cover normally between the riders feet and this was scuffed badly. I will request padding next time or maybe should carry it myself!
> scuffed badly
They should pay for this damage. They have a duty of care to both you and your vehicle.
Thanks chaps for the above. I am seeking to buy a C1 and have the prospect of getting it up to Scotland so it is good to see that a motorcycle trailer can be used as I can hire one for £20 for the day.
If anyone has a 200 for sale with ABS I am in the market!
I have used a motorcycle trailer - works fine, no problems.
Use two straps plus two ratchet straps or just keep it simple and use four ratchet straps.
Angle the straps, two forward, one each side and two backwards, one each side. Tighten the straps sufficiently that you can see the C1 pulled down on its suspension.
Put it in the C1 for sale and wanted section and keep an eye on ebay, but refer back to the forum if you see one that takes your fancy to get an opinion on it - or possibly even someone from the forum will go and have a look at it to make sure it's genuine.
If you are in a bind, then the C1 will even fit onto the back of a Nissan 120Y. My one broke down at the office and I needed to get it to the BMW Dealership so some colleagues helped me pick it up and we put it on the back. Getting it off was easier as they had a ramp we could roll it down. The magic ingredient is the nylon straps and ratchet tensioners.
By far the best and cheapest way is to hire a luton van with a tail lift, the lift is rated to 500 kg so can cope with the c1. roll onto the tail lift, pop it on its stand, jump into back of van hold onto the shoulder bow and push the up button, get a couple of inches off the deck to check the weight and postion of the bike. then lift all the way up, then roll into truck, take care to watch front and rear wheel as you ony have 1 foot front and back to manuvere.
pop three big pillows or cushions into black sacks and roll the bike to the front of the van protect the nose with a blanket, get the bike over to one side of the van and again protect the side fairing and side bumper and mirror with the pillows. put on stand with the nose pushed against the bulkhead. rachet strap from the shoulder bow that is most away from the nearest wall one pulling forwards and one pulling back behind the headrest, attach one last strap around roof and onto side of the van.
if done correctly the bike cannot fall forward and come off the stand it is effectivelly locked to the side of the van.
the beauty of using a luto with a tail lift is that transporting a c1 becomes a one person opperation and you remove the risk of it falling off a narrow wooden plank/ramp as you try and push a heavy bike up it.
I did an afternoon hire on the luton, so picked up at 1pm paid £35+fuel and dropped it back in the evening and posted the keys through the box.
COuld you position the bike inthe middle of the Luton, set it on centre stand and use ratchet straps to pull each hoop to each side of the van?
Or is that overcomplicating it...
There has been discussion previously about whether the C1 should be on its stand or not. One side advocates using the stand for a firm base; the other side advocates not using the stand so that the C1 suspension is still operational to cushion the C1 against heavy bumps and to provide some give when strapping down with ratchet straps.
Personally, I don't think it makes much difference - the suspension of the van should soak up the worst bumps anyway - the main thing is to make sure it can't possibly move around at all.
I have done both, the first time, I used a star arrangement to keep the bike in the middle, having watched some old hack pro's ie insurance company man with a van guys, I now favour the all the way forward on the stand and strapped to a side approach. There is no way it will fall off the stand and if you use the bagged up cushions no friction burns happens.
Using any method one thing remains the same, you drive to your destination very carefully and wince every time you feel a bump, my way is IMHO the best route because in the worst case event that you have a front end collision all the big weight is already pushed up against the front bulkhead, if you have the bike in the middle and have a big one then the ratchets will give and you have a missile on your hands.
Good points FM! A C1 surface to surface missile, with the back of your head being the second surface, would not make for a good day!
Ha Ha funnywould certainly add a whole new meaning to does my bum look big in this?
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