Just got on to it. Yes, my kind of site. Like I always say to people, on a Townmate every ride is an adventure. One of the reasons why I plan to go to Slovenia on it rather than my GS.
Wow. I had heard about this but not read the full story. The bodywork is amazing - such skill in creating it
That's rather good. I wonder just how far one could go in creating a full "GS" version of the Innova? Sump guard, crash bars, aluminium panniers, headlight grille...
Sorry - just seen the earlier pic with the panniers.
A GS Innova? Souns interesting. I struggle to upload pics here but would love to see a photo - maybe trial and error.
This is brilliant! Thanks
It is the Yamaha T80 Townmate. Very similar to the Honda C90 Cub except it has shaft drive, 4 speed gearbox and is 80ccs. Also a slightly larger fuel tank. They are becoming quite collectable.
They are also very tough, as this video by Extreme Trifle from 2011 shows...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9eKvHT_rGc.
The plan is for me to ride from Kidderminster to Ljubljana, Slovenia, on 10 gallons of petrol. I like a challenge!
Thanks Bob. Good to hear from you. I still have very happy memories of the 2012 rally you organised in Slenaken.
I gave the Sammy Miller museum details of your website in case they ever need specialist advice.
I still have my Yamaha Townmate to play around with and hopefully will ride it to Slovenia next year - I had to cancel this year's trip....https://10gallonstoslovenia.wordpress.com/
Thanks for this. The Murena sounds interesting. Just looked them up on Car and Classic - they seem to be quite an affordable classic for one that's in need of restoration. And worth the cost of restoring judging by the price of ones that are in really nice condition.
Yes, I'll stay in touch. Must get round to stripping the ebay engine I purchased some years ago and checking that it is as sound as the vendor claimed. I purchased it as a source of parts for mine after it seized itself but I ended up sourcing new parts instead and the spare engine has sat untouched.
Well, the day has finally arrived and I have waved farewell to my Family Friend, my remaining C1 and the one which I have owned longer than the other two. Also the one which has given me endless trouble and headaches.
The beginnings of this decision came about a couple of months ago. Having done a lot of extra work to the bike (new brake lines, paintwork making good, etc) I began to find I was not relaxed riding it - so worried about it getting damaged. Let's face it, these bikes are now becoming old and ones in good condition are rare. I decided at that point to stop using it day to day and instead save it for shows and events. However, a few weeks ago I happened to visit the Sammy Miller museum in the New Forest. https://sammymiller.co.uk/
There is quite a BMW collection there but no C1. So, after much reflection, I decided to offer the bike as a donation to the museum. They accepted the offer and this morning it was collected and is now on its way there where it will be well looked after.
I still love all things C1 and will continue to visit this forum. I also have some parts to get rid of, including an engine I purchased off ebay but have never have time to take apart and check over, so might advertise that in due course.
I did mine last autumn. As you say, time consuming getting the old horrible coating off but looks so much nicer now in satin black.
I found I had to be vert careful getting the old finish off. I used Nitromores stripper but if left too long it seemed to soften the plastic.
Well done. Yes, now is an excellent opportunity to attend to these tasks. You have done a good job Paul.
The problem now with mine is that it looks so tidy that it's a shame to use it day to day. Fortunately my wife concurred and agreed I buy another shopping trolley so the C1 is kept for best.
The new shopping trolley is a Honda Vision 110. Quite an amazing machine and so so easy to work on.
Update. Arghhhhh. Still got the rattle! At least I now have fully refurbed caliper and new pads.
Mine has had a persistent dry cough each time I start it for ages and starts to feel very hot after a while so perhaps that's what it is.
I note that the replacement pins are threaded. Rybrook BMW could not even get a non-threaded pin so I had to order from Germany.
I did check the forum for posts but could not find any. Perhaps we need a distillation of all the known problems and various ways of fixing them.
For ages now I have had a rattling/chattering noise but only when when I take a right hand corner. Quite loud and annoying but it was impossible to tell exactly where it was coming from. I suspected loose baffles in the silencer and replaced it with one off Ebay but the problem persisted.
When having some paintwork done recently the paint technician (at Fisher Restorations) suggested I examine the rear brake caliper but first of all to check by applying the rear brake gently when I hear the noise.
Did this and discovered the rattling did indeed ease off.
I have now had the caliper apart and found that the hole that the brake pad pin seats in at the far end has worn completely oval. This means that even with the (brand new) pin fully inserted and retaining clip fitted, the end of the pin is slopping around, allowing the pads to rattle about against the disc. I should have taken a photo to add to this post.
Being the tight-fisted soul that I am, rather than buy a replacement caliper from BMW, I have taken the caliper to our local engineering shop. They will try to insert a sleeve into the worn hole then drill out to the correct size. Failing that, apply some weld and re-drill.
I look forward to being able to report that I am now rattle free!
I have not come across this before. Fascinating.
Only just spotted your post. I live in Kidderminster and am happy to advise on most issues. I do my own servicing and have rebuilt the engine twice (once after a broken cam chain - a known weakness)
Yes, BMW prices are eye-watering. I normally do all my own work but I have just acquired a lovely 2008 year F650GS. Has a service history but first thing I did was change the oil and filter. It's now telling me it needs a service - probably because it is a year since the last BMW service. I asked the local dealer about resetting the system. No. They would only do that if they completed a service. They confirmed it would just be an oil change and filter. £160. I will now go ahead and buy the interface device and software so I can reset the computer myself (and enjoy looking at all the fault codes etc)
Decided to give my C1 a thorough overhaul before winter, including shot blasting and powder-coating the steel frame holding the radiator. I noticed that many of the fixings (U-brackets especially) along the way were badly rusted, so did my usual trick of soaking them overnight in vinegar. Quite an improvement for most of the parts but two U-brackets were still seriously rusted up and would need further wire-brushing and sanding. All rather fiddly. I wondered what would happen if I put them in the ultrasound bath (Lidl's finest) in vinegar. Amazing! You could see the rust just falling off. A light sand afterwards, clean in white spirits and they are now ready for a coat or two of spray Hammerite. I have treated all the other fixings to this process and they have come up almost like new.
Yes, always a sobering experience when a fellow rider you know well has a serious accident.
I'm still around and use my C1 almost daily. Have rebuilt the engine twice now.
About supporting the bike if you have a bike lift, this is what I do. Get bike on lift. Raise up. Place two car ramps on end either side to create "step ladders". Put a timber beam across. Lower bike onto beam. I have done this for many years without mishap and can work on the stand mechanism with ease as well as checking valve clearances, doing engine removal, etc
Photos to follow if they are not too big. PS, front wheel can be strapped down for extra stability. By raising and lowering the lift the rear wheel (with shock absorbers unbolted) can be raised and lowered, allowing easy access to the engine. Am currently replacing the started motor - collecting a new one from Racing Planet tomorrow. £28.
Concur with HelmetHair. Prime suspect has to be the water pump impeller seals (and worn shaft).
Curiously the only other time I lost coolant was a pin hole in one of the hoses. It only showed up as what appeared to be a tiny "thread" from the hose once the engine was up to temperature. This "thread" was actually a micro jet of coolant!
Came to remove the panel behind the front wheel and although I keep the clips coated in copperslip, one of them had seized onto the torx bolt so tight that it tore away the mounting point on the plastic.
I have repaired the plastic (cut out the damaged area and bonded + riveted a new piece in).
All the clips on my C1s are showing signs of corrosion so I wondered about replacing them. BMW still stock the clips but are something like £1.50 each.
I did my own research and discovered they are called "Chimney U Clips", M5 size. I ordered a pack of ten from Homesmart, Wolverhampton via Ebay. £5.49 delivered.
They have just arrived and as you will see from the photos are an exact replacement.
I am also soaking the original clips in vinegar. Lidl sell cornichons in a neat container with a lift out basket. Ideal for de-rusting small items. The metal turns black but is then ready for a generous coating of copper slip.
Yes, just found out. Am about to try again.
Thanks. Will take some pics tomorrow and upload
Hi everyone. No longer need two C1s having at last got my other one rebuilt and back on the road.
I acquired Masi (MA51) in August 2011 when she had done only 2,500 miles. I was going to keep her for Sundays and shows but I have ended up using her more routinely as my other C1 has been so troublesome. Now has 7,500 miles on the clock.
Although Masi was MOT'd when I got her she needed a lot of TLC. She has however performed faultlessly - took me to the Dutch rally in May 2012, from where I continued to journey down to Austria.
She comes with the rear rack but no top box. I have added a 12v power socket and hazard lights. I can also supply cargo nets which I have never got round to fitting and a brand new right hand side lower fairing (the one which goes under/round the foot board)
Looking for offers in the region of £1,400
Can email more photos upon request.
Andrew (Kidderminster, Worcestershire)
I'm still here in Kidderminster but don't have so much time for chatting on the Forum.
Two C1s - Red and silver family friend with engine out while I rebuild it (main bearing and big end seizure last October)
Red base model which I took to the 2012 international rally in Slenaken with Gerard.
Looks like they are still available from BMW at about 41 euro. I just used a larger washer on the inside of mine after I knocked the indicator while reversing. No visible damage.
A tip we were shown at the Dutch rally in 2012 to check the front wheel bearing was this. With the bike on the stand, spin the front wheel with one hand while the other hand is on the handlebars. A worn bearing gives a distinct rumbling vibration through the handlebars.
Just had the same thing with mine. Was proving really difficult to start from cold - needed full throttle! Started fine from warm. Had checked all the usual culprits (New HT lead, fully charged battery, checked valve timing, etc). Gave up and took it to my local dealership in Birmingham. Their diagnostics picked up a fault with the crank sensor. Part replaced and now starts on the button.
Great to hear from you. Hope all is well. Can you not be tempted back to C1 ownership?
I'm thinking about it for next year. It's a very quick process but the surfaces do still need to be well prepared.
Have just had the same cam problem on my machine. Have never removed the sprocket from the cam when replacing valve shims.
The symptom was that of becoming increasingly difficult to start from cold.
Have ordered a new camshaft and sprocket (£190, ouch!) and, after reading the above posts, have ordered a new washer and bolt. If it happens again I'll go for the weld-together option.
Oh the joys of C1 ownership.
Yes, exactly what I have done. No problems
My exhaust split near the cylinder head after hitting a loose hyrant cover in the road (front wheel somehow flipped it open). I got a serviceable one off ebay for £80. My son will repair my damaged one but that will not be ready until after Christmas.
Yes, me too. I greatly enjoyed the Dutch rally in 2012 and am ready again for the next international event in 2015
The tip I have heard is to wear the heated seat cover as a tabbard under your bike jacket. Cosy.
Yes, these look good. Might be in need of a pair but will see how I get on making one good (left hand) element from two damaged ones this weekend.
I'll attend again this year - it's a great event
Hey folks, it looks like interest has waned and weather looks poor. Are there any definite takers out there or shall we fix something for the Spring?
The Formule 1 looks very adequate - I've used them many times in France. Basic but clean.
Yes, I'm OK for 16th and would be OK to stay overnight if there are any good deals locally.
What abut towards the end of February?
I have now made other arrangements for next year - just seemed too far to go. It was a long haul coming back from Mayrhofen after the Dutch meeting in June this year.
Bizarre. I wonder if this would be a symptom of the main plug into the dash board being loose? Or would the engine stop too?
Hi Pam, Paul
So sorry to be losing you both from the forum. Have really appreciated your contributions. Do keep in touch by email
I'm sure all this can be rectified.
You should all be charged
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